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Acpi Temeraturmessung unter Live-Version nicht moeglich!?

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hallo und guten Tag,,

ich hab am WE versucht - unter dem Einsatz einer Live-Version auf einem Notebook eine Temperaturmessung zu machen. Das ging leider nidht.

warum - ist mir im Mom nicht ganz klar _ Anm. Es war eine Maranjo


hier ein Text zum Thema: Hardware Monitoring Support
https://www.netgate.com/docs/pfsense/mo ... pport.html

Hardware Monitoring Support
FreeBSD, and thus pfSense, supports hardware monitoring on a few chipsets.Unfortunately, support for this is limited but growing as hardware is replaced by newer Intel and AMD CPUs
that include better monitoring. Where supported, it can be handy. An Intel or AMD temperature monitor module may be selected under System > Advanced on the Miscellaneous tab.
These work with Intel Core series and later Intel chips, and similarly recent AMD chips, respectively. Support is not universal, but it is common, especially on Intel chips, even Atom-based chips.
The temperature can be observed using the Thermal Sensors dashboard widget, or by sysctl:

# sysctl -a | grep "dev.cpu.*.temperature"
dev.cpu.0.temperature: 46.0C
dev.cpu.1.temperature: 47.0C
dev.cpu.2.temperature: 47.0C
dev.cpu.3.temperature: 47.0C

These are typically on-die sensors so they only represent the CPU core temperatures, not other zones in the system.

FreeBSD also handles some settings through ACPI. To see if the hardware supports temperature monitoring,
try the following command from a shell prompt or Diagnostics > Command:

sysctl hw.acpi.thermal

If the hardware is supported, output similar to the following will be shown:

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hw.acpi.thermal.min_runtime: 0
hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate: 10
hw.acpi.thermal.user_override: 0
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.
temperature: 22.5C
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: -1
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.passive_cooling: 1
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 0
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 85.0C
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 100.0C
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: 85.0C -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
In this example, there is only one Thermal Zone, and its temperature is 22.5C (72.5F).

und meine Versuche sahen so aus...

[/code]
[manjaro@manjaro ~]$ root@fw:~ # sysctl hw.acpi.thermal
bash: root@fw:~: Kommando nicht gefunden.
[manjaro@manjaro ~]$ sysctl hw.acpi.thermal
sysctl: der Aufruf von stat für /proc/sys/hw/acpi/thermal ist nicht möglich: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[manjaro@manjaro ~]$ sysctl hw.acpi.thermal
sysctl: der Aufruf von stat für /proc/sys/hw/acpi/thermal ist nicht möglich: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[manjaro@manjaro ~]$ cat temperature
cat: temperature: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[manjaro@manjaro ~]$
[manjaro@manjaro ~]$ cat temperature
cat: temperature: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[manjaro@manjaro ~]$ sysctl hw.acpi.thermal
sysctl: der Aufruf von stat für /proc/sys/hw/acpi/thermal ist nicht möglich: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[manjaro@manjaro ~]$ su
[manjaro manjaro]# sysctl hw.acpi.thermal
sysctl: der Aufruf von stat für /proc/sys/hw/acpi/thermal ist nicht möglich: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[manjaro manjaro]#  sysctl -a | grep "dev.cpu.*.temperature"
[manjaro manjaro]#
[manjaro manjaro]#  sysctl -a | grep "dev.cpu.*.temperature"
[manjaro manjaro]#  sysctl hw.acpi.thermal
sysctl: der Aufruf von stat für /proc/sys/hw/acpi/thermal ist nicht möglich: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[manjaro manjaro]#
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Zuletzt geändert von malaga am Montag 6. August 2018, 10:10, insgesamt 1-mal geändert.

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Re: Acpi Temeraturmessung unter Live-Version nicht moeglich!?

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Man kann alles in einer Live-Version installieren.
Du brauchst lm_sensors.

Code: Alles auswählen

pacman -S lm_sensors
sensors-detect
sensors
Siehe:
https://wiki.archlinux.de/title/Lm_sensors

MfG
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Re: Acpi Temeraturmessung unter Live-Version nicht moeglich!?

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ich hab mal lm-sensors installiert....-

sieht aber auf den ersten Blick so aus  als würde die HW nicht alles unterstützen.

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[martin-pc martin]# sensors-detect
# sensors-detect revision $Revision$
# System: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. K54L [1.0] (laptop)
# Kernel: 4.14.74-1-MANJARO x86_64
# Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2330M CPU @ 2.20GHz (6/42/7)

This program will help you determine which kernel modules you need
to load to use lm_sensors most effectively. It is generally safe
and recommended to accept the default answers to all questions,
unless you know what you're doing.

Some south bridges, CPUs or memory controllers contain embedded sensors.
Do you want to scan for them? This is totally safe. (YES/no): y
Module cpuid loaded successfully.
Silicon Integrated Systems SIS5595...                       No
VIA VT82C686 Integrated Sensors...                          No
VIA VT8231 Integrated Sensors...                            No
AMD K8 thermal sensors...                                   No
AMD Family 10h thermal sensors...                           No
AMD Family 11h thermal sensors...                           No
AMD Family 12h and 14h thermal sensors...                   No
AMD Family 15h thermal sensors...                           No
AMD Family 16h thermal sensors...                           No
AMD Family 17h thermal sensors...                           No
AMD Family 15h power sensors...                             No
AMD Family 16h power sensors...                             No
Intel digital thermal sensor...                             Success!
    (driver `coretemp')
Intel AMB FB-DIMM thermal sensor...                         No
Intel 5500/5520/X58 thermal sensor...                       No
VIA C7 thermal sensor...                                    No
VIA Nano thermal sensor...                                  No

Some Super I/O chips contain embedded sensors. We have to write to
standard I/O ports to probe them. This is usually safe.
Do you want to scan for Super I/O sensors? (YES/no): y
Probing for Super-I/O at 0x2e/0x2f
Trying family `National Semiconductor/ITE'...               No
Trying family `SMSC'...                                     No
Trying family `VIA/Winbond/Nuvoton/Fintek'...               No
Trying family `ITE'...                                      No
Probing for Super-I/O at 0x4e/0x4f
Trying family `National Semiconductor/ITE'...               No
Trying family `SMSC'...                                     No
Trying family `VIA/Winbond/Nuvoton/Fintek'...               No
Trying family `ITE'...                                      No

Some hardware monitoring chips are accessible through the ISA I/O ports.
We have to write to arbitrary I/O ports to probe them. This is usually
safe though. Yes, you do have ISA I/O ports even if you do not have any
ISA slots! Do you want to scan the ISA I/O ports? (YES/no): y
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM78' at 0x290...       No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM79' at 0x290...       No
Probing for `Winbond W83781D' at 0x290...                   No
Probing for `Winbond W83782D' at 0x290...                   No

Lastly, we can probe the I2C/SMBus adapters for connected hardware
monitoring devices. This is the most risky part, and while it works
reasonably well on most systems, it has been reported to cause trouble
on some systems.
Do you want to probe the I2C/SMBus adapters now? (YES/no): y
Using driver `i2c-i801' for device 0000:00:1f.3: Intel Cougar Point (PCH)
Module i2c-dev loaded successfully.

Next adapter: SMBus I801 adapter at e040 (i2c-0)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively): y
Client found at address 0x52
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1033'...                     No
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1034'...                     No
Probing for `SPD EEPROM'...                                 Yes
    (confidence 8, not a hardware monitoring chip)

Next adapter: i915 gmbus ssc (i2c-1)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): y

Next adapter: i915 gmbus vga (i2c-2)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): y

Next adapter: i915 gmbus panel (i2c-3)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): 
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malaga hat geschrieben: ich hab mal lm-sensors installiert....-

sieht aber auf den ersten Blick so aus  als würde die HW nicht alles unterstützen.

Code: Alles auswählen

[martin-pc martin]# sensors-detect
# sensors-detect revision $Revision$
# System: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. K54L [1.0] (laptop)
# Kernel: 4.14.74-1-MANJARO x86_64
# Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2330M CPU @ 2.20GHz (6/42/7)

This program will help you determine which kernel modules you need
to load to use lm_sensors most effectively. It is generally safe
and recommended to accept the default answers to all questions,
unless you know what you're doing.

Some south bridges, CPUs or memory controllers contain embedded sensors.
Do you want to scan for them? This is totally safe. (YES/no): y
Module cpuid loaded successfully.
Silicon Integrated Systems SIS5595...                       No
VIA VT82C686 Integrated Sensors...                          No
VIA VT8231 Integrated Sensors...                            No
AMD K8 thermal sensors...                                   No
AMD Family 10h thermal sensors...                           No
AMD Family 11h thermal sensors...                           No
AMD Family 12h and 14h thermal sensors...                   No
AMD Family 15h thermal sensors...                           No
AMD Family 16h thermal sensors...                           No
AMD Family 17h thermal sensors...                           No
AMD Family 15h power sensors...                             No
AMD Family 16h power sensors...                             No
Intel digital thermal sensor...                             Success!
    (driver `coretemp')
Intel AMB FB-DIMM thermal sensor...                         No
Intel 5500/5520/X58 thermal sensor...                       No
VIA C7 thermal sensor...                                    No
VIA Nano thermal sensor...                                  No

Some Super I/O chips contain embedded sensors. We have to write to
standard I/O ports to probe them. This is usually safe.
Do you want to scan for Super I/O sensors? (YES/no): y
Probing for Super-I/O at 0x2e/0x2f
Trying family `National Semiconductor/ITE'...               No
Trying family `SMSC'...                                     No
Trying family `VIA/Winbond/Nuvoton/Fintek'...               No
Trying family `ITE'...                                      No
Probing for Super-I/O at 0x4e/0x4f
Trying family `National Semiconductor/ITE'...               No
Trying family `SMSC'...                                     No
Trying family `VIA/Winbond/Nuvoton/Fintek'...               No
Trying family `ITE'...                                      No

Some hardware monitoring chips are accessible through the ISA I/O ports.
We have to write to arbitrary I/O ports to probe them. This is usually
safe though. Yes, you do have ISA I/O ports even if you do not have any
ISA slots! Do you want to scan the ISA I/O ports? (YES/no): y
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM78' at 0x290...       No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM79' at 0x290...       No
Probing for `Winbond W83781D' at 0x290...                   No
Probing for `Winbond W83782D' at 0x290...                   No

Lastly, we can probe the I2C/SMBus adapters for connected hardware
monitoring devices. This is the most risky part, and while it works
reasonably well on most systems, it has been reported to cause trouble
on some systems.
Do you want to probe the I2C/SMBus adapters now? (YES/no): y
Using driver `i2c-i801' for device 0000:00:1f.3: Intel Cougar Point (PCH)
Module i2c-dev loaded successfully.

Next adapter: SMBus I801 adapter at e040 (i2c-0)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively): y
Client found at address 0x52
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1033'...                     No
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1034'...                     No
Probing for `SPD EEPROM'...                                 Yes
    (confidence 8, not a hardware monitoring chip)

Next adapter: i915 gmbus ssc (i2c-1)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): y

Next adapter: i915 gmbus vga (i2c-2)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): y

Next adapter: i915 gmbus panel (i2c-3)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): 
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Re: Acpi Temeraturmessung unter Live-Version nicht moeglich!?

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by the way - ich habe zufällig ein zweites Gerät hier - das praktisch auch ein ASUS ist

es heißt x 55 und hat auch einen i 3 Prozessor und einen 4 gb RAM

Allerdings läuft ein win 7 drauf.

und hier ergeben sich wahrscheinlich die allerersten fundamentalen Unterschiede - Win wird ggf nicht so viele Ressourcen brauchen wie das Manjaro Linux.

'Frage kann ich denn ggf auch auf dem Windows irgendwie vergleichbare Messunge machen - nur on the fly bzw. ad hoc
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Re: Acpi Temeraturmessung unter Live-Version nicht moeglich!?

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hallo und guten Abend - hier mehr werte ....

denke dass der Rechner ein Herunterfahren noetig hatte. Jetzt kann Sensors -Daten liefern.



der Rotor - Lüfter dreht immer immer schneller
...


```
[martin@martin-pc ~]$ su
Passwort:
[martin-pc martin]# ^C
[martin-pc martin]# sensors
coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Package id 0:  +79.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +85.0°C)
Core 0:        +79.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +85.0°C)
Core 1:        +76.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +85.0°C)

acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:        +79.0°C  (crit = +88.0°C)

asus-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
cpu_fan:    3700 RPM
temp1:        +79.0°C 

[martin-pc martin]# sensors
coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Package id 0:  +80.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +85.0°C)
Core 0:        +80.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +85.0°C)
Core 1:        +78.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +85.0°C)

acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:        +79.0°C  (crit = +88.0°C)

asus-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
cpu_fan:    3800 RPM
temp1:        +79.0°C 

[martin-pc martin]# sensors
coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Package id 0:  +79.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +85.0°C)
Core 0:        +79.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +85.0°C)
Core 1:        +78.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +85.0°C)

acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:        +79.0°C  (crit = +88.0°C)

asus-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
cpu_fan:    3900 RPM
temp1:        +79.0°C 

[martin-pc martin]# sensors
coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Package id 0:  +80.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +85.0°C)
Core 0:        +79.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +85.0°C)
Core 1:        +77.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +85.0°C)

acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:        +79.0°C  (crit = +88.0°C)

asus-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
cpu_fan:    3900 RPM
temp1:        +79.0°C 

[martin-pc martin]# sensors
coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Package id 0:  +81.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +85.0°C)
Core 0:        +81.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +85.0°C)
Core 1:        +76.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +85.0°C)

acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:        +81.0°C  (crit = +88.0°C)

asus-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
cpu_fan:    4200 RPM
temp1:        +81.0°C 

[martin-pc martin]#
```

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